Portable recorder

Sure, but could there not be more paper than is needed for the Gigue? Play from memory? (I do). IT’S THE CROSSED HANDS!

| draak
March 6 |

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I think there’re too many pages on the music rack for Bach’s gigue in Partita I, unless it’s in Very Large Print, or maybe with the repeats written out on separate pages {which seems pretty useless}.
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| wgk Wolfgang Knauss
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Bach’s gigue in Partita I? I love that.


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Le 06/03/2023 18:02, James via The Jackrail écrit :

Dennis, you have a plethora of input, please let us know your results.

Yes, and I want to thank everyone for this input, though a lot of it
will beyond both my needs and my means. Carey’s report and videos on the
recording of his 1773 Kirckman are very interesting - and the result
does sound faithful, if that means anything when one has never heard the
original live. But I assume that one of his four microphones alone
probably costs over ten times the price of my portable recorder with its
built-in microphones. Nevertheless, that is indeed the type of recording
I’d want, so I’ll try different positions somewhere between his two
pairs. Does this mean that the farther you move away from the bentside,
the higher the microphones should be? Or is this due to the difference
between two types?

@Dennis what portable recorder do you have? And as I asked before, is the photo your instrument?

Le 08/03/2023 02:42, Andrew Bernard via The Jackrail écrit :

what portable recorder do you have? And as I asked before, is the
photo your instrument?

I have a Tascam DR-05X. And no, this is not my instrument, but a photo
found on the internet on a page explaining how to place the microphones
when recording a harpsichord.

Can you post that link? I’d be interested.

Very nice. That has a fixed A-B mic position which gives a wide stereo field with some slight loss of the midfield. Although this is not a helpful comment, the next model up, the DR-07X has foldable mics which allow A-B stereo and X-Y stereo positions. If it were me, I’d be using the standard X-Y mic configuration for recording the harpsichord. But again, this is very subjective and personal matter.

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Le 08/03/2023 08:53, Andrew Bernard via The Jackrail écrit :

Can you post that link? I’d be interested.

https://piano-clavecin-epinette-clavicorde.blogspot.com/2018/06/prise-de-son-pour-instruments-claviers.html

Pardon the French ;-).

My post regarding the two mics on 12” T-bar past the tail of the instrument was for recording a 9’ Steinway Concert grand in an acoustically favorable environment. Your mileage may vary. As a very, very general rule, I have had better results with higher, rather than farther, but the lid is an issue. I personally would go no higher than half the distance between the rim and the lid, and move away from the instrument to get the acoustic I want. You may also want to experiment moving your mics in an arc from the spine towards the cheek, with the point of the tail as the center of the circle.

You are correct, the ideal omni mic picks up sound equally for 360 degrees around it. However, practically that never happens, due to a multitude of factors, among them being the diaphragm diameter, the way the capsule is mounted, the windscreen, and the size and geometry of the mic body. The human ear is essentially an omni-directional pressure transducer. You can hear sounds all around you, but due primarily to the ear canal and outer ear, you hear things, particularly highs, much better when they are in front of you. An omni mic is no different, it has a preferred axis, usually perpendicular to the front of the capsule.

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Thank you for you teaching, James: I appreciate that, though I had guessed that 360 degr is not really achievable. I appreciate your help. W

| JAKurowski James
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You are correct, the ideal omni mic picks up sound equally for 360 degrees around it. However, practically that never happens, due to a multitude of factors, among them being the diaphragm diameter, the way the capsule is mounted, the windscreen, and the size and geometry of the mic body. The human ear is essentially an omni-directional pressure transducer. You can hear sounds all around you, but due primarily to the ear canal and outer ear, you hear things, particularly highs, much better when they are in front of you. An omni mic is no different, it has a preferred axis, usually perpendicular to the front of the capsule.


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Le 08/03/2023 17:43, James via The Jackrail écrit :

My post regarding the two mics on 12” T-bar past the tail of the
instrument was for recording a 9’ Steinway Concert grand in an
acoustically favorable environment. Your mileage may vary. As a very,
very general rule, I have had better results with higher, rather than
farther, but the lid is an issue. I personally would go no higher than
half the distance between the rim and the lid, and move away from the
instrument to get the acoustic I want. You may also want to experiment
moving your mics in an arc from the spine towards the cheek, with the
point of the tail as the center of the circle.

Thanks for the further suggestions, James.